Third time’s a charm on the St. Joe

Gold Pass: Where Montana gravel meets Idaho pavement

The St. Joe River flows from deep within, or perhaps high in, the Bitterroot mountains that divide Montana from Idaho’s Panhandle. To get there we traveled from St. Regis, MT over the Little Joe Road (a well-maintained gravel road) 14.5 miles to the top of Gold Pass, where Idaho takes over. From here the road changes in both name (becomes Gold Pass Road) and surface material (becomes pavement). We descended another 12.5 miles before turning onto the St. Joe River Road toward Red Ives Ranger Station. From this junction the St. Joe River can be accessed fairly easily from the road for the next 12 miles until the vehicle access ends at Spruce Tree Campground. If you’re willing to walk a ways beyond this point you can find some drop-dead gorgeous water. The farther you hike the better your chances of having the river to yourself. If you want to go one step further, you can ride a horse upriver and leave civilization behind in the dust.

Will Judge packs the essentials onto Schpanky’s horse, Pancho.

Near the end of the St. Joe River Road is the Base Camp for the St. Joe Outfitters, owned and operated by Barbara and Will Judge. I won’t go into a detailed, nuts and bolts description of their business here, but if you’re inclined to read more about it I’ve posted a copy of an article I wrote for Fly Rod & Reel, Spring 2010. “Cutthroat Commandos” wouldn’t have been my choice for the title, but I had no say in the matter; apparently the editor thought it fitting.  For the record I have never fished commando style for any fish, cutthroat or otherwise.

When you book a trip with the St. Joe Outfitters you will travel 5 miles by horseback on the main trail that follows the river the entire way; sometimes right along the banks, other times high above the river. If you prefer not to ride you can hike the high trail on foot, as did Hal. He has no opposition to horses, he’s just a hiker type. Schpanky and I were happy to be paired with Pancho and Chett for the journey upriver. During your 2 hours in the saddle you will cross the St. Joe six times before arriving at your destination: The St. Joe Lodge.

Almost there: Atop my trusty steed, Chett.

The Lodge lies at the edge of a sprawling meadow, tucked amongst the tall spruce trees. It’s really something that words cannot describe, and while photos do a better job, visiting firsthand is really the only way of gaining a true appreciation for the place. The Lodge itself is a log structure built in the 1940’s that has retained much of its original rustic charm. Guests stay in cabins situated a few feet away from the Lodge, where meals are taken. Accommodations are far from fancy, but they are comfortable in a rustic, authentic manner. The Lodge has a lot of character, and as you might imagine there are stories to be told about its history.

The St. Joe Lodge

Inside the Lodge, where food happens.

Guest cabins, where sleep happens.

I’ve fished the Joe a mere 4 times, and until recently had been to the St. Joe Lodge twice before. Upon returning from a third visit I must say that it was a very special trip thanks in no small part to the company I kept: I was joined once again by my brother, Hal, and my son, Schpanky. Hal and I went together the first time in 2008, and Schpanky has heard me talk about it ever since. I promised him that one day, when he became a big boy, I would take him. Well, he’s now bigger than I am so I finally made good on my promise. In 2009 I visited the Lodge with Marck and Jimmy. There followed a couple years that I didn’t get back to fish the Joe, proceeded by another year that Marck, Jimmy, Morris and I did the trip on a budget and camped at Spruce Tree. Last summer I was not able to make the trip so this year it felt great to be back on the Joe; even sweeter to be back at the Lodge.

Plenty of clear, cold water.

This past winter the Bitterroots saw an abundant snowpack and the runoff was slow to subside thanks to some cool, wet weather in June. During this 3rd week in July the flows in the upper Joe were higher than the seasonal average, but the river was very fishable. Only a few spots, where one might normally wade with ease this time of year, were a bit dicey. However it was no problem for those who are quick on their feet (and I only lost my footing once). Deep holes held plenty of westslope cutthroats, but they were pickier than I seem to recall them having been in the past and we had to work awfully hard for most of the fish we caught. Whomever said the Idaho cutthroat are stupid fish that will take any reasonably well-presented didn’t formulate their opinion this year, on this river.

We fished 2-1/2 days and on the first afternoon we were not met with a very warm reception on the part of the fish. We hiked about a mile upriver from the Lodge to a run known as Whitefish Hole, and though we didn’t see any whitefish we did see scores of cutthroat rising to midges—size 12 chernobyl ants didn’t even get a look. Hal and Schpanky each managed to catch a fish but I was denied such accomplishment. Only after hiking back down toward the lodge was I able to land a fish on a size 20 Griffith’s Gnat in what is referred to by the locals as Wyatt’s Hole. Despite a slow few hours of catching we didn’t think too much of it because we were just getting started. Back at the Lodge, a fine feast of fresh-baked pizza made everything OK, followed by fireside comradery and a good night’s sleep.

First day fish for Schpanky.

The next day we hiked upstream about 3-1/2 miles before dropping into the river to fish our way back down. The first stop was along a gorgeous stretch of river where the Joe was braided into several channels. Logs and woody debris formed some of the tastiest-looking trout water one could imagine, but this first spot yielded no fish. Throwing a streamer next to the logjams should have, and likely would have, produced at least several nice fish, if not for the presence of vermin.  Once I saw that I reeled up and moved well downstream. No sense wasting time where the otter had been fishing.

Never try to compete with an accomplished angler.

Downstream a half mile Schpanky and I observed what may have been the largest trout either of us had ever seen. The leviathan was every bit of 24 inches as it cruised slowly through the crystal clear water. Big fish don’t get big by being stupid, and once it saw us it made a U-turn and swam rapidly off through a shallow riffle, headed downstream before we could get our hopes up.  It may have been a bull trout as they were known to inhabit the upper river this time of year, or it may have been a monster cutthroat—we’ll never know. Had it been a bull trout we definitely would not have targeted it because targeting bull trout is legally frowned upon in the upper Joe. Another big fish, though not quite as big as the first, was observed moving under the logjam, but nothing we tried could entice it to come out and play. While fishing was outstanding, catching remained a bit slower than we’d have preferred the rest of the day. Hal and Schpanky could blame their choice of headwear for the slow catching, but I had no such excuse.

Team Unaccomplished.

Schpanky hooks up with one of few fish on day two.

We fished dries in a variety of sizes and patterns but the most success I had was fishing white conehead streamers. I hooked and mostly landed (read: broke off at my feet) a couple very respectable 16-17 inch fish, but only a small handful of smaller fish were caught the rest of the day. We didn’t see another angler during our entire day on the river, but we did see plenty of gorgeous country. We also caught a fleeting glimpse of a moose crossing the river a couple of hundred yards away. Those are the best kind of moose—the ones at a distance.

Yeah, it’s pretty country.

A streamer eater.

Schpanky with another Idaho cutty.

Cadaver feet.

That evening back at the Lodge we were glad to get out of our waterlogged boots and have a cold beverage or two. Come supper time we were treated to an exceptional fried chicken and mashed potato meal thanks to Barbara’s amazing culinary talents. After dinner we moved to the campfire to stare into the flames, discuss the likelihood of Bigfoot’s existence, and share bad jokes. By 10 pm we retired to the bunk cabin for a solid night’s sleep. We needed to be well rested for the next day’s activity: more fishing.

Chow time in the chow hall.

While the fishing on day two had proved slow and challenging, on the third day things picked up. A father knows his son, and I could tell that, despite enjoying himself in the backcountry, Schpanky was a bit frustrated by the lack of ample catching—especially since I had told him he would have the best trout fishing experience of his life (he may have misinterpreted that to mean the best catching experience of his life). He quickly got over that as he caught fire on the third day. Armed with a yellow conehead version of a Woolly Bugger, the lad was catching fish left and right, pulling fish from runs that Hal and I had already fished through. It wasn’t until he broke off the magic streamer that his catch rate slowed to that of his uncle and his old man. I reminded him that he owed me $3.25 for the lost fly.

One of Schpanky’s many fish on day three.

Hal was fishing his 3 weight Redington 7′ Butterstick for the first time and had very favorable things to say about it. I grabbed it for a few casts and will say that it’s a smooth casting stick worthy of its name, and 12-14 inch fish are an awful lot of fun on a rod that bends like a noodle. Surprisingly it can also throw a fair amount of line for such a soft stick.

Hal’s Butter bent but did not melt.

We fished below the Lodge for a mile and a half or so, encountering some fish willing to eat dry flies without being too finicky, although presentations still had to be spot-on. I managed to fool a particularly nice fish that had been rising in a mid-river seam. It took several drifts but I finally got the fat 15 incher on a black caddis. It was a dark, beautifully colored fish—as pretty as they come, and an awful lot of fun on my Sage Circa 3 weight.  I’ve always fished a 4 weight on the Joe, and while the 3 weight isn’t particularly well-suited to chucking streamers, it makes fighting even 10 inch fish fun.

A gorgeous St. Joe cutt on a black caddis.

It had a real purty mouth.

Hal enjoys the evening rush hour traffic on the Joe.

St. Joe cookie cutter cutt.

Each of us enjoyed good catching on this third day and we were mindful to appreciate the day because it was our last: in the morning we would have to pack out and return to civilization. I hesitate to mention food again, but the last supper consisted of short ribs and potatoes, cooked in the Dutch Oven, that were over-the-top. It was a meal fitting of a birthday feast—Barbara’s birthday, as it were. On a day when she should have been waited on hand and foot while sipping lemonade in the hammock outside the Lodge, Barbara was busy making sure her guests were well-fed, again. Every meal is excellent and you will not go hungry while you’re a guest at the Lodge. I’ve always teased Schpanky because he tends to have a light appetite, but on this trip he ate food like a big boy—even went for thirds on the ribs. Made is Pappy proud, he did. As per protocol, after stuffing our faces we waddled outside to the fire for the usual antics, and something a good bit less usual.

Heard but not seen.

No matter your personal feelings about the reintroduction of wolves in western states, you’d be hard-pressed to convince me that hearing a wolf howling in the back country isn’t pretty awesome. The first howl caught us off-guard: a long, low and mournful call—nothing like the high-pitched call of a coyote, in case you thought us mistaken. We ceased the bad joke telling and sat in silence trying to determine if what we’d heard was our imagination. It was 9:30pm as the fire crackled and the generator powering lights in the St. Joe Lodge hummed in the background. Normally by this hour the generator would have been turned off, but Barbara was celebrating her birthday by playing a game of Scrabble with one of the other guests: If she wanted the lights left on, by golly they were going to be left on. We waited for another howl, which came shortly after the first.  It was neither our imagination, nor was it someone engaging in a bit of backcountry hijinks. I mean, who other than Lone Wolf McQuade would go to the trouble of hiking up to a ridge at night and imitating a wolf?  The lone animal called out 5 or 6 times with no response. There was a ten minute break before we heard another howl, this time downriver but still high on the ridge across the river. After speculating whether it was an answering call or perhaps the same wolf that had moved rather quickly along a game trail, we concluded that it was more than likely the latter. On this third night, on my third trip to the St. Joe Lodge, it was my first time hearing a wolf in the wild. After crawling into the fart sack a short while  later, I will admit that I hoped I wouldn’t have to get up in the middle of the night to go outside and relieve myself mark my territory.

While riding out on the final day of our trip, Will noted some oversized canine tracks on the trail. Unless someone had been hiking the area with a St. Bernard, the tracks very likely belonged to the wolf we’d heard the night before. Chett and Pancho seemed to agree, and had a skip in their steps that was missing on the ride in 3 days earlier.

Mission accomplished.


If you’re looking for a very unique backcountry fly fishing adventure—something the likes of which you’ve probably never experienced before—I highly recommend you contact Barbara and Will Judge at St. Joe Outfitters. Their calendar fills fast, so you’ll not want to wait too long. And when you go I recommend you bring Chuck Norris along for protection. You never know what you may run into in the Idaho wilderness.


  1. andy

    One day I will visit the USA

    • Kirk Werner

      Andy, I hope that you do. And when that happens, put the Joe at the top of your list—you will not be disappointed!

  2. walt franklin

    A well-written account of a great experience in the Idaho wilds. Would love to fly-fish on the Joe someday.

    • Kirk Werner

      Thanks for the comment, Walt. As you can imagine, I would highly recommend that you fish the Joe!

  3. mike doughty

    man what an awesome looking trip

    • Kirk Werner

      Thanks, Mike. Indeed it was—just not long enough.

  4. Leigh

    Agree with above comments. Looks perfect.

    • Kirk Werner

      It was pert near perfect. Maybe better if we’d seen and not just heard the wolf. At a distance, mind you. Thanks for the comment, Leigh.

  5. Morris






    • Kirk Werner

      I think I sense that you enjoy angling on the Joe, yes?

  6. Michael

    Headed to the Joe this summer and can’t wait! My only hopes now are that the wolf has moved on and that I don’t smell Barbara’s cooking as we hike past the lodge packing in our dehydrated delights.

    • Kirk Werner

      Not to worry as I am sure the wolf has moved on…upriver, to join up with others. Hope they don’t raid your dehydrated delights! We’re headed back again this summer—the flows are going to be low. Hopefully the deep pools are full of fish. Have a great trip, and thanks for the comment.

  7. Jim Carrier

    Very enjoyable article. Question: are you by chance familiar with Heller Creek that flows into the Joe? We tried to find it one time and were disappointed in the results, we never got to Helleer. Hoping to be in Montana, Idaho and Wyoming next summer for 8 weeks and hope to get on the Joe and Heller Creek. Thanks for any info you may have.

    • Kirk Werner

      We’ve never sought out Heller Creek, though we’ve pondered taking the road up there and doing so. Mainly we wanted to take the road to the Heller Creek Campground and fish the upper Joe. After corresponding with someone who did that, we decided not to make the jaunt as access to the Joe from there is tough. As for fishing Heller Creek itself, never looked into that. Do so, and report back with your findings! 😉

      • Jim Carrier

        Thank you for responding. Ofttimes one never hears back from anyone on a site such as this. Am hoping to be in Avery for awhile if we find sufficient waters to make it advisable. Do you feel we would find small creeks or small streams to last a week or more? Heller Creek seems to be an out of the way place that I would love! Hope to be able to report to you on it. The trip will be late July, August and some of September, total of eight weeks. Knee replacement surgery Monday, 8/10/20 will tell the tale if I get to go or not. Tight lines!

  8. Kevin McMurry

    Great account….thank you. I’ve camped/fished the Joe from Spruce Tree a number of times and loved it. It’s pretty remote and exclusive if you hike up to or past the lodge. The dry fly fishing is challenging and it’s been my experience that you only get one precisely cast presentation per spot…..and some days are better than others:). The river is gorgeous and the surroundings rugged and the fishing is a worthy challenge. It’s so wild and peaceful….I can’t wait to go back!

    • Kirk Werner

      Thanks for the comment. I’ve stayed at the St. Joe Lodge 3 times and hiked about 3 miles above that point to fish. I didn’t find the fish to be any more welcoming above the lodge than they are between the Lodge and Spruce Tree, but the river is definitely quieter up there. The Joe is such a great river anywhere above Spruce Tree, but last summer when we were there it was too crowded for my tastes. Maybe it was just an odd year due to the Pandemic and the fact that people were seeking out opportunities to recreate close to home rather than their typical summer vacations. Whatever the case, I’m hoping it gets back to more of a normal (pre-Covid) situation with fewer people.

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